Discussion:
What Trump’s Victory Means for the Mainstream Media
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Joe Cooper
2016-11-09 18:03:24 UTC
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After a long night that ended up with a clear Trump victory, I think it’s
safe enough to say that, from now on, there are going to be some radical
changes in the relationship between the American people and Mainstream
Media (MSM).

Here there are the following 15 talking points that should be considered
(in a random order):

(1) The MSM has always presented itself as the holder of Truth. Reality
has shown that MSM has been engaged for way too long in a war with Truth,
and MSM has lost this war.

(2) The MSM has portrayed Hillary Clinton as a person exonerated from
criminal responsibility for her numerous acts of corruption and illegal
activities over time. Reality has indicated that she has jeopardized
national security, and has threatened certain individuals, perceived as
dangerous or compromising for her own political convenience.

(3) The MSM has presented Donald Trump as an isolated, exotic character,
unrelated to the world’s current major concerns (particularly in Europe,
but also in Asia and Africa), such as: Islamic terrorism, massive
immigration (particularly from Muslim countries), and the assault against
Christianity. Reality has shown that Trump is, indeed, a true American
Mr. Brexit.

(4) The MSM has presented populism as a marginal trend in the American
society. Reality has proven that the majorities of the electorates of
both parties, Republican and Democratic, consist in populist voters, who
support anti-Establishment candidates (Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders).

(5) The MSM has followed Hillary Clinton and portrayed – narratively and
statistically - more than half of the country’s population as a “basket
of deplorables,” in sharp contrast with “the majority of the American
people.” Reality has shown that the so-called majority - ideologically
and racially – consists in an accumulation of several minority groups.

(6) The MSM has threatened the “deplorables” with many Hollywood darlings
moving out the country if the candidate of the “deplorables” were to win.
Post-election reality will force those darlings of the Dream Factory City
to fulfill their vocal promises (otherwise, they should shut the hell up
and just sing or act!).

(7) The MSM has presented as a fait accompli the idea that winning
televised presidential debates organized by MSM is a solid predictor of
winning the presidency. Reality has illustrated that this has become a
myth (especially after episodes of Donna Brazile-type, where party
operatives, in cahoots with the same MSM, leak information about people’s
debate questions to certain preferred candidate).

(8) The MSM has instilled the idea that political household names – like
Kennedy, Clinton or Bush – are invincible per se. Reality has shown that
non-politicians, like Trump, can take down in just one electoral race two
powerful political-dynastic names (Bush and Clinton), which had ruled the
country for 16 years in a row.

(9) The MSM has trained the electorate to think that “temperament” is a
bad thing and “experience” is a good thing. Reality has proven that
“temperament” involves a powerful character, strong values,
determination, contempt for political correctness, while “experience” (if
it’s bad) is useless (and so is “low energy”).

(10) The MSM has accustomed the American people to a politically correct
discourse. Reality has proven that new standards need to be adopted:
“tell it like it is,” “high energy” and “being unpredictable” have become
a “must” in order to overcome the voters’ boredom and apathy. Benjamin
Franklin is credited with the famous quote: “Believe none of what you
hear, and only half of what you see.”

(11) The MSM has constructed a narrative according to which certain
constituents (like minorities, union workers) can be regarded as
“plantation workers” and certain constituencies (like “the Blue Wall” –
Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) are Democratic Holy Lands; the
reality has shown that nobody and nothing can be taken for granted
anymore.

(12) The MSM has created the narrative that Hillary Clinton is the
inevitable president, who would win by a landslide (predicted with a 90%
probability), and the Democrats would take the U.S. Senate, too. Reality
has shown that Republicans can win the presidency and both houses of the
Congress (for the first time since November 1928!). However, this does
not exempt the Republicans from reforming their own party.

(13) The MSM has instilled the idea that America means mainly New York,
The Bay Area and Hollywood. Reality is that the core of America is
exactly in-between.

(14) The MSM years ago switched the party traditional colors to red for
Conservatives and blue for Democrats (with the late Tim Russert being
credited as one of the coiners). Reality is that the original colors
(supported ideologically by the British and continental European
tradition) used to be blue for Conservatives and red for Democrats. Time
has come now for the two colors to go back to their original parties.

(15) The MSM has accustomed the electorate to the toxic idea that a Trump
presidency will be the “hell on earth.” Reality will show liberals that
they should not moan and weep because their country has not been lost,
but rather saved. And it will be greater again and more prosperous than
ever!

As a consequence of all of the above, the MSM has lost irremediably the
right to be called “mainstream.”

Source: http://bit.ly/2fmdYco
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Xavier
2016-11-09 19:19:01 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
After a long night that ended up with a clear Trump victory, I think it’s
safe enough to say that, from now on, there are going to be some radical
changes in the relationship between the American people and Mainstream
Media (MSM).
Don't bet the farm on it. The leftist pols will try to block, hinder,
hamper every Trump move and the MSM will be right in bed with them as
usual.
First-Post
2016-11-09 20:17:15 UTC
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Post by Xavier
Post by Joe Cooper
After a long night that ended up with a clear Trump victory, I think it’s
safe enough to say that, from now on, there are going to be some radical
changes in the relationship between the American people and Mainstream
Media (MSM).
Don't bet the farm on it. The leftist pols will try to block, hinder,
hamper every Trump move and the MSM will be right in bed with them as
usual.
You'll likely see more people turning to talk radio and the more
honest smaller news sources and Internet sources since it has become
blatantly obvious that the MSMs are nothing more than political
proxies for the liberal left and democratic party.

No doubt they will still remain the biggest but they'll be taking a
hit in their viewership regardless.
But you're right. They haven't been humbled by their FUBAR one bit
and will probably double down on their agenda rather than learning
anything from this.
True journalism has obviously died in regards to the MSM in America.
Ted
2016-11-09 22:36:16 UTC
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After a long night that ended up with a clear Trump victory, I think it’s
safe enough to say that, from now on, there are going to be some radical
changes in the relationship between the American people and Mainstream
Media (MSM).
Here there are the following 15 talking points that should be considered
(1) The MSM has always presented itself as the holder of Truth. Reality
has shown that MSM has been engaged for way too long in a war with Truth,
and MSM has lost this war.
(2) The MSM has portrayed Hillary Clinton as a person exonerated from
criminal responsibility for her numerous acts of corruption and illegal
activities over time. Reality has indicated that she has jeopardized
national security, and has threatened certain individuals, perceived as
dangerous or compromising for her own political convenience.
(3) The MSM has presented Donald Trump as an isolated, exotic character,
unrelated to the world’s current major concerns (particularly in Europe,
but also in Asia and Africa), such as: Islamic terrorism, massive
immigration (particularly from Muslim countries), and the assault against
Christianity. Reality has shown that Trump is, indeed, a true American
Mr. Brexit.
(4) The MSM has presented populism as a marginal trend in the American
society. Reality has proven that the majorities of the electorates of
both parties, Republican and Democratic, consist in populist voters, who
support anti-Establishment candidates (Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders).
(5) The MSM has followed Hillary Clinton and portrayed – narratively and
statistically - more than half of the country’s population as a “basket
of deplorables,” in sharp contrast with “the majority of the American
people.” Reality has shown that the so-called majority - ideologically
and racially – consists in an accumulation of several minority groups.
(6) The MSM has threatened the “deplorables” with many Hollywood darlings
moving out the country if the candidate of the “deplorables” were to win.
Post-election reality will force those darlings of the Dream Factory City
to fulfill their vocal promises (otherwise, they should shut the hell up
and just sing or act!).
(7) The MSM has presented as a fait accompli the idea that winning
televised presidential debates organized by MSM is a solid predictor of
winning the presidency. Reality has illustrated that this has become a
myth (especially after episodes of Donna Brazile-type, where party
operatives, in cahoots with the same MSM, leak information about people’s
debate questions to certain preferred candidate).
(8) The MSM has instilled the idea that political household names – like
Kennedy, Clinton or Bush – are invincible per se. Reality has shown that
non-politicians, like Trump, can take down in just one electoral race two
powerful political-dynastic names (Bush and Clinton), which had ruled the
country for 16 years in a row.
(9) The MSM has trained the electorate to think that “temperament” is a
bad thing and “experience” is a good thing. Reality has proven that
“temperament” involves a powerful character, strong values,
determination, contempt for political correctness, while “experience” (if
it’s bad) is useless (and so is “low energy”).
(10) The MSM has accustomed the American people to a politically correct
“tell it like it is,” “high energy” and “being unpredictable” have become
a “must” in order to overcome the voters’ boredom and apathy. Benjamin
Franklin is credited with the famous quote: “Believe none of what you
hear, and only half of what you see.”
(11) The MSM has constructed a narrative according to which certain
constituents (like minorities, union workers) can be regarded as
“plantation workers” and certain constituencies (like “the Blue Wall” –
Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) are Democratic Holy Lands; the
reality has shown that nobody and nothing can be taken for granted
anymore.
(12) The MSM has created the narrative that Hillary Clinton is the
inevitable president, who would win by a landslide (predicted with a 90%
probability), and the Democrats would take the U.S. Senate, too. Reality
has shown that Republicans can win the presidency and both houses of the
Congress (for the first time since November 1928!). However, this does
not exempt the Republicans from reforming their own party.
(13) The MSM has instilled the idea that America means mainly New York,
The Bay Area and Hollywood. Reality is that the core of America is
exactly in-between.
(14) The MSM years ago switched the party traditional colors to red for
Conservatives and blue for Democrats (with the late Tim Russert being
credited as one of the coiners). Reality is that the original colors
(supported ideologically by the British and continental European
tradition) used to be blue for Conservatives and red for Democrats. Time
has come now for the two colors to go back to their original parties.
(15) The MSM has accustomed the electorate to the toxic idea that a Trump
presidency will be the “hell on earth.” Reality will show liberals that
they should not moan and weep because their country has not been lost,
but rather saved. And it will be greater again and more prosperous than
ever!
As a consequence of all of the above, the MSM has lost irremediably the
right to be called “mainstream.”
Source: http://bit.ly/2fmdYco
Thanks for sharing that Joe.
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