An embryo is not a "baby" or a "child"

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

There are too many safe, reliable methods of birth control available
for a woman to "accidentally" become pregnant with a child she doesn't
want. One might even say that any woman who gets pregnant, wanted to
get pregnant.

Swill

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Attila

2022-07-01 05:48:35 UTC

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Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?

If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-01 15:18:21 UTC

Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

I simply believe that abortion should not be used as birth control.
And if that birth control fails, plan to spend the next 18 years being
responsible for that hour of fucking.

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Swill

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Attila

2022-07-01 17:56:53 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:18:21 -0400, ***@gmail.com
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Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by g***@gmail.com
I simply believe that abortion should not be used as birth control.
And if that birth control fails, plan to spend the next 18 years being
responsible for that hour of fucking.

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Post by g***@gmail.com
Swill

--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

Somebody too

2022-07-01 20:57:51 UTC

Post by Attila
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Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

BeamMeUpScotty

2022-07-01 21:11:53 UTC

Post by Attila
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Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

The father's emotional health is involved.

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Attila

2022-07-01 22:20:43 UTC

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:11:53 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Attila
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Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

The father's emotional health is involved.

The woman's actual physical health is involved.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

Attila

2022-07-01 22:19:54 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 14:57:51 -0600, Somebody too

Post by Attila
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Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs. And an abortion really isn't that expensive even with
all of the extra costs required by the harassment of
workers.

Not to mention child support for 18 years.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

Somebody too

2022-07-01 22:30:58 UTC

Post by Attila
On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 14:57:51 -0600, Somebody too

Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

Like I said.

Attila

2022-07-02 00:48:30 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 16:30:58 -0600, Somebody too

Post by Attila
On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 14:57:51 -0600, Somebody too

Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Attila
There is such a thing as rape,, as well as a change in
circumstances during a pregnancy. Not to mention birth
control failures,

And all those conditions are rare. I'm not against abortion in cases
of rape, incest or the mother's health.

http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

Post by Attila
Why should a woman be forced to risk her life and health
against her wishes?
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

Their wallet is.

Like I said.

Abortion is cheaper.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-02 01:18:27 UTC

Post by Attila
Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs.

You are really a piece of work.

I HAVE ALREADY STATED PLAINLY THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE
CASE OF HEALTH RISK TO THE MOTHER. I HAVE STATED THIS POSITION MANY
TIMES.

YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE.

*flush*

Swill

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Attila

2022-07-02 04:54:20 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:18:27 -0400, ***@gmail.com
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Post by Attila
Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs.

You are really a piece of work.
I HAVE ALREADY STATED PLAINLY THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE
CASE OF HEALTH RISK TO THE MOTHER. I HAVE STATED THIS POSITION MANY
TIMES.
YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE.
*flush*
Swill

Every pregnancy is a risk to the woman involved.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

BeamMeUpScotty

2022-07-02 18:01:33 UTC

Post by Attila
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Post by Attila
Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs.

You are really a piece of work.
I HAVE ALREADY STATED PLAINLY THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE
CASE OF HEALTH RISK TO THE MOTHER. I HAVE STATED THIS POSITION MANY
TIMES.
YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE.
*flush*
Swill

Every pregnancy is a risk to the woman involved.

Compounding the risk of pregnancy with abortion and unknown cancer and
other risks like allergic reactions and bleeding then those risk NOT
just the mother but it straight-up attempts to kill the baby that if the
mother knew she was going to die might decide to save the baby and
accept her own death at the time of birth. So you know the risk to baby
is 99% in an abortion. Would the mom kill the baby if she knew she would
die at the babies birth or at the abortion?

Would she want to leave somone behind by saving the baby holding out
until the birth?

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Attila

2022-07-02 18:13:29 UTC

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:01:33 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Attila
Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs.

You are really a piece of work.
I HAVE ALREADY STATED PLAINLY THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE
CASE OF HEALTH RISK TO THE MOTHER. I HAVE STATED THIS POSITION MANY
TIMES.
YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE.
*flush*
Swill

Every pregnancy is a risk to the woman involved.

The risks involved with a pregnancy are real and end with
the pregnancy. She should decide whether to risk herself or
not and not be forced against her will to do so.

Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Would the mom kill the baby if she knew she would
die at the babies birth or at the abortion?

That cannot be answered with a single answer since it an
persona and individual decision each woman would need to
make herself. The point is to allow her to make her own
decision and not to have it forced upon her.

Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Would she want to leave somone behind by saving the baby holding out
until the birth?

See above.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

Don Kresch

2022-07-02 21:20:23 UTC

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:01:33 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id

Post by Attila
Which is unimportant compared to the risks a pregnant woman
runs.

You are really a piece of work.
I HAVE ALREADY STATED PLAINLY THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE
CASE OF HEALTH RISK TO THE MOTHER. I HAVE STATED THIS POSITION MANY
TIMES.
YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE.
*flush*
Swill

Every pregnancy is a risk to the woman involved.

Compounding the risk of pregnancy with abortion and unknown cancer

You know, I've never actually seen even ONE study to back that
up.

Post by BeamMeUpScotty
and
other risks like allergic reactions and bleeding then those risk NOT
just the mother but it straight-up attempts to kill the baby that if the
mother knew she was going to die might decide to save the baby and
accept her own death at the time of birth.

Ah, the "noble sacrifice" lunacy.

Don
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g***@gmail.com

2022-07-02 01:16:17 UTC

Post by Attila
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

If I'm the father I am.

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

So?

Swill

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Attila

2022-07-02 04:58:19 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 21:16:17 -0400, ***@gmail.com
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Post by Attila
If you are not the one who is pregnant why is it any of your
business?

Because it's my progeny at risk.

You are a relative?

If I'm the father I am.

So you are not interested in almost every pregnancy but
only those you caused.

Post by g***@gmail.com
Yes, I do believe father's have rights.

Their life and health are not involved.

So?

The life and health of the woman is at risk and she should
decide whether or not she desires this. He decision may
affect you financially but that is the limit of your
exposure.
--
Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerious enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Two Bitches and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
and Cory Booker. They have stepped over the line
and are working against the country and
what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

Don Kresch

2022-07-02 14:27:29 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Don
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Jedi Slackmaster

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-03 00:13:50 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

Swill

--
Republican congressman Andrew Clyde (GA):
"You know, if you didn't know the tv footage was video from
January 6, you'd actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

Don Kresch

2022-07-03 00:47:26 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

And yet that STILL has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Don
aa#51
o- DNRC
Jedi Slackmaster

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-03 16:57:21 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

And yet that STILL has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Yeah, actually, it does. You wrote about women getting pregnant and
what rights they had. I wrote about there being no reason for a woman
to get pregnant in the first place.

Swill

--
Republican congressman Andrew Clyde (GA):
"You know, if you didn't know the tv footage was video from
January 6, you'd actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

Don Kresch

2022-07-04 00:13:19 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

And yet that STILL has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Yeah, actually, it does.

No, actually it doesn't.

Don
aa#51
o- DNRC
Jedi Slackmaster

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-04 17:22:37 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

And yet that STILL has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Yeah, actually, it does.

No, actually it doesn't.

Yeah, it does. Tell your English instructor you could use some
tutoring in following the twists and turns of adult conversation.

Swill

--
Republican congressman Andrew Clyde (GA):
"You know, if you didn't know the tv footage was video from
January 6, you'd actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

Don Kresch

2022-07-04 20:30:53 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:25:48 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

An embryo is not a "slave" or to be killed as punishment for a crime
where the party shall have been "duly convicted". Without due process to
establish having been duly convicted.

The woman is not a slave, or to be enslaved as "punishment"
for getting pregnant. She does not lose her self-ownership when she
becomes pregnant.

And yet this has nothing to do with what I wrote.

It does in the sense that pregnancy is a deliberate, if sometimes
subconscious, act.

And yet that STILL has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Yeah, actually, it does.

No, actually it doesn't.

Yeah, it does.

No, it actually doesn't.

Tell your English instructor you could use some tutoring in
following the twists and turns of adult conversation.

Get the feeling that this conversation isn't going to go the
way you expected?

Don
aa#51
o- DNRC
Jedi Slackmaster

g***@gmail.com

2022-07-04 22:33:32 UTC

Post by Don Kresch
Tell your English instructor you could use some tutoring in
following the twists and turns of adult conversation.
Get the feeling that this conversation isn't going to go the
way you expected?

Scream, "BLUE!" again for us, Donkey.

Swill

--
Republican congressman Andrew Clyde (GA):
"You know, if you didn't know the tv footage was video from
January 6, you'd actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

Don Kresch

2022-07-04 22:55:45 UTC

Scream, "BLUE!" again for us, Donkey.

And THERE'S the meltdown, right on schedule.

Don
aa#51
o- DNRC
Jedi Slackmaster

Don Kresch

2022-07-02 21:18:16 UTC

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:40:27 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
[...]

You are always required to be alive to inherit property, because until
you reach a certain age you can't do those things and for having
property and other RIGHTS being exercised, you have to be alive and then
for some of it the Constitution says you have to be born or basically no
longer gestating in a uterus and for some you have to be 18 years old.
You have to be alive to exercise liberty, and that's why "life" takes
priority over personal wants and preferences. And why abortion is the
RIGHTS of the human life in the uterus being violated in the worst way.

But, as you know, there is no human life in the uterus.

Oh, it's alive and is human.

But then: so is the woman.

The real question is: who owns the womb.

Do
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Jedi Slackmaster

BeamMeUpScotty

2022-07-03 15:49:31 UTC

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:40:27 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
[...]

But, as you know, there is no human life in the uterus.

Oh, it's alive and is human.
But then: so is the woman.
The real question is: who owns the womb.

NO the real question is who owns their own life, the woman or the human
life in the uterus or both?

Because those who don't own their life and have their life protected
like the woman or the baby, would be a slave wouldn't they?

SO what is the Human life in the uterus, is that life a piece of
property? And then there's the question of owning a human life being
slavery and so when you support slavery or women being chattel or a
human life being a slave, is it a violation of the 13th Amendment?

Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.

And the 14th which says *nor shall any State deprive any person of life*

Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; *nor shall any State deprive any person of life* ,
*liberty, or property, without due process of law* ; *nor deny to any*
*person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws* .

A human life in a uterus is in the jurisdiction of the United States
apparently when it's an ILLEGAL ALIEN BEING BORN HERE. Which puts a bit
of sand in the gears when you try to abort that protected person that
wants to come out of the uterus to be a U.S. citizen. They tell us that
human life was here and can't be extradited and yet at the same time the
Democrats tell us that the BABY and the mother carrying the baby have
RIGHTS, suppose that we deport the life in the uterus and by connection
it means the mother has to be deported... the human life in the uterus
has NO RIGHTS AT ALL and can be deported can't it?

It means Biden and Democrats are supposed to be deporting all illegal
human life in the uterus of another human life. Why aren't they doing
that?

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Don Kresch

2022-07-04 00:15:35 UTC

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 11:49:31 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty

On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 10:40:27 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
[...]

But, as you know, there is no human life in the uterus.

Oh, it's alive and is human.
But then: so is the woman.
The real question is: who owns the womb.

NO the real question is who owns their own life, the woman or the human
life in the uterus or both?

NO!

The real question is "who owns the womb".

Let's assume for the moment that the fertilized egg has rights
(it doesn't, as rights cannot, by definition, obtain until birth).
Let's further stipulate that the woman has rights.

Who owns the womb?

This is the question, for all rights are, in fact, property
rights.

Don
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Jay Santos

2022-07-03 03:00:09 UTC