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Thomas Sowell: A Public Service
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Joe Cooper
2016-12-20 13:09:51 UTC
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Sometimes someone inadvertently performs a public service by bringing an
unbelievably stupid and dangerous idea to the surface, where it can be
exposed for what it is.

The New York Times can be credited -- if that is the word -- with
performing this public service in a recent editorial against proposals to
allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed guns. They refer to what
they call the National Rifle Association's "fantasy that citizens can
stand up to gunmen by shooting it out."

Nobody has suggested any such thing. Data collected over many years --
but almost never seeing the light of day in the New York Times or the
rest of the mainstream media -- show many thousands of examples of people
defending themselves with a gun each year, without having to pull the
trigger.

If someone comes at you with a knife and you pull out a gun, chances are
they will stop. The only time I ever pointed a gun at a human being, it
was when someone was sneaking up toward me from behind a shed in the
middle of the night. I never fired a shot. I just pointed the gun at him
and told him to stop. He stopped.

Actually having to shoot someone is the exception, not the rule. Yet the
New York Times conjures up a vision of something like the gunfight at the
OK Corral.

Concealed guns protect not only those who carry them but also those who
do not. If concealed guns become widespread, then a mugger or a car
jacker has no way of knowing who has one and who does not. It makes being
a mugger or a car jacker a less safe occupation. Gun control laws are in
effect occupational safety laws -- OSHA for burglars, muggers, car
jackers and others.

The fatal fallacy of gun control laws in general is the assumption that
such laws actually control guns. Criminals who disobey other laws are not
likely to be stopped by gun control laws. What such laws actually do is
increase the number of disarmed and defenseless victims.

Mass shootings are often used as examples of a need for gun control. But
what puts a stop to mass shootings? Usually the arrival on the scene of
somebody else with a gun.

Mass shooters are often portrayed as "irrational" people engaged in
"senseless" acts. But mass shooters are usually rational enough to attack
schools, churches and other places where there is far less likelihood of
someone being on the scene who is armed.

Seldom do we hear about these "irrational" shooters engaging in
"senseless" attacks on meetings of the National Rifle Association or a
local gun show or a National Guard armory.

The fallacy of believing that the way to reduce shootings is to disarm
peaceful people extends from domestic gun control laws to international
disarmament agreements. If disarmament agreements reduced the dangers of
war, there would never have been a World War II.

The decades leading up to that war were filled with international
disarmament agreements. As with domestic gun control laws, the agreements
were followed by peaceful countries and ignored by belligerent countries
that built up huge war machines, such as in Nazi Germany and imperial
Japan.

The net result was that the belligerent countries had every incentive to
start wars, and that they inflicted devastating losses on the peaceful
countries that had drastically curtailed their own military forces.

Eventually the Western democracies got their act together and turned
things around, after they belatedly beefed up their military forces. But
thousands of lives were lost needlessly before that happened. World War
II was in its third year before Western forces won a single battle.

Undaunted by history, the same kind of thinking that had cheered
international disarmament treaties in the 1920s and 1930s once again
cheered Soviet-American disarmament agreements during the Cold War.

Conversely, there was hysteria when President Ronald Reagan began
building up American military forces in the 1980s. Cries were heard that
he was leading us toward nuclear war. In reality, he led us toward an end
of the Cold War, without a shot being fired at the Soviet Union.

But who reads history these days, or checks facts before leading the
charge to keep law-abiding people disarmed?

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution,
Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is
www.tsowell.com. To find out more about Thomas Sowell and
read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and
cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate webpage at
www.creators.com.

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they fight tooth and nail against any policy that would give blacks a
chance to earn their share of the American Dream." (Tom Trinko)
Byker
2016-12-20 18:20:18 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Sometimes someone inadvertently performs a public service by bringing an
unbelievably stupid and dangerous idea to the surface, where it can be
exposed for what it is.
The New York Times can be credited -- if that is the word -- with
performing this public service in a recent editorial against proposals to
allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed guns. They refer to what
they call the National Rifle Association's "fantasy that citizens can
stand up to gunmen by shooting it out."
As on Jan. 1, California's new gun control package includes:

-- Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines
holding more than 10 rounds.

-- Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a
felony.

-- Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by
passing a background check.

-- Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits
the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.

-- Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will
be forced to carry gun liability insurance.

-- Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100%
prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.

-- Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will
become a felony if you keep one.

-- Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home
where weapons are kept

-- Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.

-- Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s
Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no
longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law
enforcement.

Can you think of a better reason to leave the Land of Fruits and Nuts?

As I've said before, you couldn't pay me enough money to go back there to
live...
First-Post
2016-12-20 18:34:58 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Sometimes someone inadvertently performs a public service by bringing an
unbelievably stupid and dangerous idea to the surface, where it can be
exposed for what it is.
The New York Times can be credited -- if that is the word -- with
performing this public service in a recent editorial against proposals to
allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed guns. They refer to what
they call the National Rifle Association's "fantasy that citizens can
stand up to gunmen by shooting it out."
-- Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines
holding more than 10 rounds.
-- Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a
felony.
-- Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by
passing a background check.
-- Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits
the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
-- Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will
be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
-- Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100%
prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
-- Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will
become a felony if you keep one.
-- Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home
where weapons are kept
-- Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
-- Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s
Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no
longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law
enforcement.
Can you think of a better reason to leave the Land of Fruits and Nuts?
As I've said before, you couldn't pay me enough money to go back there to
live...
So they are effectively banning all handguns except revolvers and
muzzle loaders along with a majority of hunting rifles.

There are going to be a lot of enthusiasts that will either have to
liquidate most of their collection or move out of state.

Wonder how many citizens that own a single pistol for self defense are
actually going to dispose of what will be their illegal guns?

And banning hollow points? Hollow points are safer than solid rounds
as they aren't nearly as likely to go through a target and continue
down the street to hit an innocent victim.

It's amazing that they managed to pass such nonsense even in
California.
PaxPerPoten
2016-12-21 05:35:15 UTC
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Post by First-Post
Post by Byker
Post by Joe Cooper
Sometimes someone inadvertently performs a public service by bringing an
unbelievably stupid and dangerous idea to the surface, where it can be
exposed for what it is.
The New York Times can be credited -- if that is the word -- with
performing this public service in a recent editorial against proposals to
allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed guns. They refer to what
they call the National Rifle Association's "fantasy that citizens can
stand up to gunmen by shooting it out."
-- Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines
holding more than 10 rounds.
-- Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a
felony.
-- Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by
passing a background check.
-- Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits
the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
-- Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will
be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
-- Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100%
prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
-- Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will
become a felony if you keep one.
-- Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home
where weapons are kept
-- Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
-- Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s
Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no
longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law
enforcement.
Can you think of a better reason to leave the Land of Fruits and Nuts?
As I've said before, you couldn't pay me enough money to go back there to
live...
So they are effectively banning all handguns except revolvers and
muzzle loaders along with a majority of hunting rifles.
There are going to be a lot of enthusiasts that will either have to
liquidate most of their collection or move out of state.
Wonder how many citizens that own a single pistol for self defense are
actually going to dispose of what will be their illegal guns?
And banning hollow points? Hollow points are safer than solid rounds
as they aren't nearly as likely to go through a target and continue
down the street to hit an innocent victim.
It's amazing that they managed to pass such nonsense even in
California.
I wonder what the Supreme court ruling would be on this?
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It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
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