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Despite What Her Campaign Wants You to Believe, Hillary Clinton Did Send Top Secret Emails on Her Homebrew Server
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Joe Cooper
2016-01-29 23:15:26 UTC
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Hillary Clinton’s campaign has repeatedly pushed back on the idea that
any of the emails she sent using her personal email system while serving
as Secretary of State were classified top secret.

Back in November, for example, campaign spokesperson Brian Fallon tweeted
out a link to a Politico report suggesting that early findings that some
of her emails contained highly classified material were wrong. Maybe
Fallon was just sharing, not endorsing, and the exclamation points he
included in his tweet were just there to demonstrate his surprise at the
story.

In any case, it turns out that the report was wrong, and Clinton did
indeed send at least 22 emails classified as top secret, according to an
Associated Press report this afternoon.

These emails were classified as “special access programs,” according to
Politico, which means they were compartmentalized within the top secret
designation; even top secret clearance wouldn’t necessarily be enough to
get someone access to these communications.

The State Department has slowly making Clinton’s emails public over the
last few months, following a court order, but not complying with it
fully: A federal judge had ordered the emails to be completely released
by the end of today, but instead, only about 1,000 of the 9,000 remaining
pages of email will be released later tonight.

So far, about 1,300 of Clinton’s emails have been labeled classified at
some level. Today was the first time, however, that any had been
confirmed to be classified top secret. So far, classified emails have
been redacted for release. The top secret emails revealed today won’t be
released in any way; they’ll simply be withheld.

On the campaign trail, both Clinton and her team have sought to downplay
the importance of the issue and her responsibility for the matter.

"I did not send classified material, and I did not receive any material
that was marked or designated classified," Clinton said. Fallon, her
communications aide, has defended Clinton by saying she “was, at worst,
the passive recipient of unwitting information that subsequently became
deemed as classified.”

That remains to be seen. As the Associated Press reports today, the State
Department “wouldn't disclose if any of the documents reflected
information that was classified at the time of transmission, but
indicated that the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and
Research bureaus have begun looking into that question.”

And whether or not the emails were marked as classified is not the entire
issue. As a Reuters report noted in August, "the government's standard
nondisclosure agreement warns people authorized to handle classified
information that it may not be marked that way and that it may come in
oral form."

Previous reports have suggested that Clinton's emails contained top
secret information, based on information from the inspector general for
the intelligence community. But up until now, as The Washington Post
notes, the State Department had not agreed that any of the emails should
be classified as top secret, and her campaign had relied on the
difference to suggest that the classification of her emails was largely a
dispute between agencies.

What continues to be most revealing about this story is not the
particular contents of any of the emails, but the way that Clinton and
her team have handled it.

At virtually every turn, she and her campaign staffers have misled and
dissembled, repeatedly making statements that later turn out to be false.
In general, her attitude is one of disdain and dismissiveness, as if
transparency and truthfulness about her unorthodox decision to conduct
her State Department email business exclusively on a homebrew email
server was unnecessary, or beneath her. She has displayed both a willful
disregard for the truth and as a generalized resistance to public
scrutiny and oversight. And that may tell us more about her, and what
kind of president she might be, than any email she’s sent.

Source: http://bit.ly/1SORe4J
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c***@loon.com
2016-01-30 03:22:34 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 23:15:26 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has repeatedly pushed back on the idea that
any of the emails she sent using her personal email system while serving
as Secretary of State were classified top secret.
And, as repeatedly, your rightwing has come up with MORE unproven
allegations, insinuations, innuendo, conjecture, theories, rumors,
stories and lies--pretending 'we got something"

SNICKER
Post by Joe Cooper
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from the words he said.
You're a nigger, not because of your white skin color, because of
your character.
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Vandar
2016-01-30 04:23:17 UTC
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Post by c***@loon.com
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 23:15:26 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has repeatedly pushed back on the idea that
any of the emails she sent using her personal email system while serving
as Secretary of State were classified top secret.
And, as repeatedly, your rightwing has come up with MORE unproven
allegations, insinuations, innuendo, conjecture, theories, rumors,
stories and lies--pretending 'we got something"
It was the State Dept that released that bit about her server having 22
emails that won't be released at all because of security concerns.
First Post
2016-01-30 04:54:16 UTC
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Post by Vandar
Post by c***@loon.com
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 23:15:26 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has repeatedly pushed back on the idea that
any of the emails she sent using her personal email system while serving
as Secretary of State were classified top secret.
And, as repeatedly, your rightwing has come up with MORE unproven
allegations, insinuations, innuendo, conjecture, theories, rumors,
stories and lies--pretending 'we got something"
It was the State Dept that released that bit about her server having 22
emails that won't be released at all because of security concerns.
One of the "rightwing" sources Gary is eluding to:
<http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e19abf78b6fe43e7b7719f059901630d/apnewsbreak-govt-finds-top-secret-info-clinton-emails>

Another "rightwing" source:
<http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/29/politics/state-department-to-release-clinton-emails/>

And then there are these obviously "far right" news agencies:
<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-email-release-state-dept-miss-todays/story?id=36600533>

<http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/state-department-declares-hillary-clinton-emails-top-secret-n507161>

<http://www.cbsnews.com/news/22-top-secret-hillary-clinton-emails-wont-be-released/>

And what is really bizarre is that the Clinton campaign is all but
demanding that the emails be released because "they are saying" that
they really aren't classified. So you have a FORMER secretary of
state and a campaign spokesperson telling the agency that determines
what is and is not top secret, an agency working under the Obama
administration BTW, that they don't know what they're talking about
when it comes to what is and is not classified. OOOOKAAAAY.
Joe Cooper
2016-01-30 19:21:42 UTC
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Post by Vandar
It was the State Dept that released that bit about her server having 22
emails that won't be released at all because of security concerns.
Ayup. The loverly thing about that is that the State Department in doing so
proved that Hillary Clinton lied to the American people AND committed a
felony - or three.

Harridan Hillary's gotta love that :-)
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
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